Jobs database

Hi Tomaz,

Actually this is one area where I can't help out. dice.com is what all EarthWeb sites use. Actually, on a personal note while I enjoyed the ads posted in our original jobs database, I had great results when posting my resume on dice.

Parenthetically, dice does have international jobs, but obviously not as many as the US-based ones.

Cheers,
Tom Archer
Web Master - dev-archive

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Maybe imperialism was not the right choice of words but de facto you are turning this site to an American site by political decisions and I don't appriciate that. Not at all!
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WHOA!!! You were making a very lucid, valid argument until you decided to interject this personal statement. Number one, ***I*** am not doing anything to "turn this into an American site". If you want to have a logical discussion and exchange of ideas to better CG that's great. However, leave the personal, irrelevant and flat-out invalid remarks out. Ok? I've been a part of CG for almost 2 years and am simply conveying a corporate policy set forth by the people that now own CG.

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Would EarthWeb consider a public vote on first page on that or is audience which is the base of their profit not as important as political link to pretty useless Dice?
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Now this *might* be a good idea. Let's see how many people respond to this thread first and then we'll see what direction to go in.

Once again I"d like to reiterate one thing here. I'm very open to discussing ANY options and alternatives. Just don't give me this personal b.s. about how "I'm turning this site into an American site". I've been here since the beginning and I don't appreciate that.

Cheers,
Tom Archer
Web Master - dev-archive

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However, I am also disappponted that dev-archive web site focuses more on the commercialrism after Earth.web got dev-archive web site
For example, old dev-archive website looks like old Micorosoft. But now it looks like IBM.
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Why? I mean, as a developer, I could care less whether the people that own the site are a couple of guys in a basement or a multibillion dollar company. The site remains a great repository of code and articles to use in our every day lives. Hell, I use whatever site helps me. If that's dev-archive, fine. If it's CodeProject or Experts-Exchange, great. I really don't care. They all do the same thing. They provide a great place for developers to help one another out.

And where do people get this silly bit about commercialism being bad? Same articles. Same forums. The only difference is the UGLY wavy line on the left and some ads on the right. Personally, as long as the site remains free, I'll put up with the banners. Beats the hell out of paying for the site.

BTW, if you think CodeProject is a "developers" site that is void of commercialism, then you're VERY naiive. Dundas is paying Chris and everyone else there and will definitely use it to sell its own products. The only reason you don't see more banners on CodeProject is for the simple reason that they're not big enough to attract the attention. Dundas IS NOT dumping money into CodeProject just out of the goodness of their hearts. Like anyone else, at some point, they'll look to turn a profit. I for one, can't blame any of them (Zafir, EW, or Dundas). I mean, geez! Free code and free articles and all you have to do is put up with some banners.

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BTW, Tom. Did you quit AT&T.
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Yes. I left AT&T in January of 99. I then designed and implemented an extremely large DNA solution for a very large insurance company.

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Where is Zafir? Is Zafir also the web master now?
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Zafir decided to leave. I really don't want to talk bad about Zafir, but just realize that the three months when CG "went dark" wasn't entirely EW's fault. It also certainly isn't the fault of the current section managers or myself. We're just the ones taking the flak for 3 months of the site being abandoned. However, that's fine. We've erased a 3 month back log of submitted articles in only 1 month and we'll continue to bring CG back to the stature it once held.

Cheers,
Tom Archer
Web Master - dev-archive

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I'm agreed with you on that this site is absolutely free and we can't expect the same service as the other web site which we have to pay the money.
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Actually, now that I am the Web Master and we do have people working on the site again, you will start to receive the EXACT same service and response times that you did in the past when Chris and I maintained the site. The only reason you haven't recently is that when Zafir sold the site, nobody was maintaining it for 3 months.

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Since this site is free, it is very important that this site must need something in ordet to keep the excellent VC developers to get more useful information.
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Well this is the forum to tell me EXACTLY what it is that you think the site is lacking. There are things I can't do much about (e.g., lots of banners, etc.). However, with regards to responding quickly to user requests, posting articles in a timely manner, keeping the front page and newsletter fresh, etc., I can definitely help out there since I do have control over the *content* of the site.

My point is this: Despite all the b.s. about EW bought the site and now its different, blah blah blah, there is NO DIFFERENCE other than a few corporate things like annoying banners and dice.com, etc. Other than that, almost all of the main people that ran CG before are now back on CG and we plan on getting this site back to where it was before that "3 month dark period".
Therefore, don't be shy about voicing your opinions and desires. I might not agree with everything you say, but I ***will listen*** and I ***will respond***.

Cheers,
Tom Archer
Web Master - dev-archive

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I used the word you to refer to EarthWeb and its politics, not to Tom Archer. I did not mean to point *you* out and if you felt that way I apologize.
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Thanks Tomaz. It just seems as though those of us who stuck it out to continue with the site are taking the heat for the errors of people that left you guys hanging for 3 months and then bailed. It does tend to make one a little sensitive :)

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I guess this is my problem.
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Actually, anytime a part of the site doesn't do what you want it's a problem on our side. EW may have purchased the site for profit. However, the thing that everyone seems to forget is that the majority of us that have always been with CG are still here for one main reason: we enjoy giving back to the developer community. I have a couple of conference calls with EW set up for this afternoon and will bring this issue up. Hopefully, I'll be able to report back with something positive.

Cheers,
Tom Archer
Web Master - dev-archive

Tom
I also as a non American, find the dice jobs not as useful as the historic dev-archive board.
Actually I find Dice.com hopeless for me, it equates to useless Spam almost.
Also the commercialism theme in this thread, Is normal for us Non Americans.
Please have a bit of empathy here, We non Americans see a lot less propaganda and
advertising than, Americans. Thus we have a different attitude towards it as we are so unuse to it.
Tom I don't wish to start a World vs US war. It's just different cultures look at different things differently.
I agree a few banner ad's are a small price to pay for a great site.
So I dare you to put up the poll, and Include a checkbox for the user to indicate if they are US based or not.
The problem with voluntary polls, is that only those who feel strongly normally vote. So maybe you should make it a compulsary vote.
This issue is strong to my heart, as I have a family care for, And the best method I ever found of picking up contracts, was the old board.

Regardz
Colin Davies


regardz

Colin Davies

Thanks for the news TOM,
If Dice.Com was truly an international employment agency, the arguement would be irrelevant,
And would only serve to restrict EW earning a few dollars.
However unfortunatley that is not the case.
I suppose you could give Dice.Com the banner space for the forum.
I personally see no problem in you offering two employment options. but heh I'm not EW.
Also I didn't consider it a silly dare !

Thanx for your time etc !

regardz

Colin Davies