Where are we from ?

and where exactly is CANADA ?

JeffB

Can't vote. Anyway, I think there are only 3 of us here from my country. :D

I'll forgive you Sonu
puh...thanks man ! ;)

- Sonu Kapoor

At least there must be:

"(o) Others"

;)

I will change the Poll. Which major countries should be added ?

Ok ! Thanks for your suggestion. I will add the point "Others" to it.

- Sonu

Thanks Brad!
That was what we needed. :)

So guys, keep on voting.

I'm afraid nearly nobody visits this forum. So you will have to ask in some kind of administrator thread on top of all other forums to invite the users to come here if you really want to go through with this.

Originally posted by Sonu Kapoor

I thought with my Poll, several users will come here and let us know, what they think and where they are from. But i was wrong...

Actually, the thread has been viewed by 288 users, and there is only 20 votes, I wonder why so much people come here and don't register their vote... The poll is on a good topic, simple, don't require explaning your answer and has been started by a Moderator, what do you want more!!? :) :) :D

JeffB - Let's the poll pop up!

In the question: Where are you from, do you means "Where are you now" or "where are you from originally"? I am french and I have done all my studies and my first job in France, but now I am living in Ireland. Who knows where I'll be soon...

That's a pity that this forum is not used more, but It really requires an additional time to browse through all the forums to look for Polls or other informations, especially when the forum you usually use is VC++ (being the more active)...

I mean where are you from originally !

Sonu

Pfiou... So I gave the correct answer ;)

Yes, I know that we are not so good at voting in France :D:D:D

I'm from...er...uhm...HOME! ;)

Err, why "Finland" is not listed in there?

i think this falls also under the point "others" ;)
You can vote there ...

- Sonu

It is 28 votes / 476 views, giving 5,88% of participation, what are you all doing!!! Is only "guest" coming here ! ?? :D

I would like to see these statistics Brad talk about to know if the guest % is effectively 94... :D

JeffB

How true, Simon. But the poll is still not interesting enough for many users. To less users are voting.....I cant understand it !

Are all of them really so busy ?

- Sonu

To Cimperiali : ... 'siamo solo in due italiani... Che Vergogna... :))!!!!!!'

And if you count Others + all non USA, USA is definitely not the majority. :D

It seems that dev-archive is really international. Or may be people from smaller countries want to say "Hey, I'm here" while people from USA (and some other big countries) don't care. :p

I just know I am definitely not the only french, but so far only one other has voted. It is hard to have a good value information in this forum :(

Ehy, do not forget local times...
in Usa (NY) is around 8 o'clock in the morning. On the other coast (LA) is even earlier (around 4 o'clock, if I am not mistaking). Give Usa coding people the time to wake up...;)

Give Usa coding people the time to wake up...

The thread started on 08-11-2002, how much time need USA to wake up ? Are they doing a hibernation like bears ? LOL :D

Nice sig man :-) Especially the voting part ! Everybody should do that.

- Sonu

Immer wieder, Immer wieder, Immer wieder sterreich!!!!

I will translate that for the rest of us:

"Again, always, always Austria".

- Sonu :rolleyes:

The thread started on 08-11-2002

well...errrmm...I noticed it only today... you know, it is august, you started this around our summer holydays, the general discussion forum may be not the most visited one...errrmm... (feel like I was hybernated in summer)
well...let us give everybody some more time...

Originally posted by Simon666
476 views: I do not think those are all different users. I think when someone comes back - like me - the number of views increases also. So the number of people who viewed this thread AND voted might just be 100%.

Oh thanks, just try some and think you are right, I always thought that one people can only add ONE view, but I was wrong, so..., ... The Cimperiali publicity DOUBLE the votes!! :) CHEERS :D

JeffB

Yo vivo en MEXICO!!!!!

50 votes and 49 replys???!!!! :D

We post more than people votes... ( ok, it's like comparing bananas and apple... ;) )

JeffB - Let's pop up until the awaited 100 mighty votes :D

i am unique , maybe, from ireland!!!! great forum!!!!

For how many times these new country are there!!! Just figure CANADA is here!! can't vote!!

JeffB

i am unique , maybe, from ireland!!!! great forum!!!!

Welcome in this forum, pal :-)

- Sonu

If you posted into "other" and you are now in one of the new countries I've listed, then send me a Private Message (PM button) saying that you entered your vote in other and would like it moved to XXX, where XXX is the category it really belongs in.

Yes - dev-archive uses WebTrends, so I can get stats on locations for people. Not at the level of all the individual countries listed in this poll, but pretty detailed. Those stats, however, are not as fun as this poll :).

As to views -- yes, each time you read this tread, the views increments. This makes the views misleading to some extent; however, regardless of how it increments, it still is a good indicator of how popular a thread is.

Brad!

I just found out I'm the ONLY Aussie who has voted. Surely, theres gotta be more of us out there...?

:cool:

We are not only a nation of surfers, swimmers and C++ programmers, but we also have really really really really ridiculously good looking people like myself. - D.

But what did you vote?

Of course INDIA. I Love my INDIA. :D

- Sonu

Yeah...
I was browsing the VB prog forum...and in each query's replies...Cimperiali has mentioned it...Please vote for this poll...also has included the same in his signature....OWhhh...Wowww...I couldn't be spared

Cimperiali - Just a curiosity...were u in some advertising department before?? :D

I am basically from India...but staying in Abu Dhabi.

Cheers
Natalie

P.S : Don't ask me how I ended up with this login name....I was just browsing this site one day...so I registerd with some login name...and I liked this site so muchhh...and now I am stuck up with the login name...:D

Cimperiali - Just a curiosity...were u in some advertising department before??

LOL!
No, but I am italian: in our country, instead of solve problems we make a lot of publicity on how it would be great to solve matters (kidding, of course!!) ;)

Have a nice day, you all

Originally posted by phinds
and where is the entry for "who gives a ****" ?

The entry for that is not to answer. No need to be harsh!!! :confused:

Great 80 Votes :D

hm....USA is on the TOP ! Where are you all indian guys ?

100 will be reached very soon :-) with your help, guys...

And look at my sig!!! Is that beautiful? Like/dislike?

Nice Sig...man ! :cool:

- Sonu Kapoor

It would be kind of interesting to see if there are actually some other people from Luxembourg here... Well I guess not :(

What ?! You don't care ? :rolleyes: Shame on you :p

P.S. I kinda like the sig as well, I should maybe get my own one ;)

Originally posted by Sonu Kapoor
Support this interesting poll with the ultimative poll sig and be a part of the poll sig members....:cool:

I just hope people will not get tired to read "GO TO THAT POLL", "WANT TO VOTE", "..." and the likes ten times a day, so they will have enough, email Brad Jones and Sonu saying :

"MODERATOR: There a bunch of Spam - guy in here that try to recruit member for a kind of secret agency para-military bomb thrower regroupment, look at this thread:

http://www.dev-archive.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=204164

And you'll see what I means, stop them!!!!

:D :D

JeffB -

Yes, well, Jeff has some sort of point though :p

When I first saw the sigs with "Have you already voted today" ?, I thought of some dodgy try to get people to vote on stuff like MSN's votes...

My suggestion is still to make a persistant post on every forum that explains and links to the poll ;) I'm not quite sure if it's standard, but on some other VBulletin board I'm on, the Administrator sometimes includes a link at the top of the board to remind us users of important changes / things to do :)

and i thought austrians are selfconfident... :cool:

Originally posted by Elrond
Yes, I know that we are not so good at voting in France :D:D:D

Correct! :)
Thanks for your link. I added my small participation for the french team !

I was actually wondering if you were french, or only french amateur. I got my answer here ! :)))

I think I actually asked the same question "where are we from?" in the feedback forum ... :)

Regards,

Marina

as long as nobody call me a bavarian :D

Originally posted by Sonu Kapoor
An another question to all:
Are we over-reacting with this poll ( our sigs and so on ) ?
- Sonu

Oh, yes, of course: do not forget that behind these monitors we are all human being...

Are we over-reacting with this poll

lets see...

as long as nobody call me a bavarian

Ok, for i'm not finding "Franken" in the poll, i voted for germany

USA is on the TOP ! Where are you all indian guys ?
100 will be reached very soon :-) with your help, guys...

... in other forum boards, do not forget to
invite people to come here and vote!

Hum, you should really have put Luxembourg as an option in the poll. I don't like being an other

...

but i don't think we are overreacting...

we just write a litte overreacted or so...

But i like it. It is the first thread i looked in this forum (i think because of Cimperialis link in his signature)

:D :D :D

why do you think so?

I dont want to be other. Pakistan is missing from here.

I dont want to be other. Pakistan is missing from here.
hey come on, if the great Franken nation and Austria are others, Pakistan could also be.

But I dont know why Japan or other NULL voted are no others?

Are we over-reacting with this poll ( our sigs and so on ) ?
Oh no...

No, we are just having some fun
True

Oh, yes, of course: do not forget that behind these monitors we are all human being...
Tend to forget some time...

we just write a litte overreacted or so...
Ten pages of bla-bla-bla is not a little overreacted writing, it's a lot

It seems that you are a Cimperialis fan
WHO'S NOT?

I dont want to be other. Pakistan is missing from here.
Do someone know how many official country there is? I think it is more than 100? huh? Well anyway, for now, vote at others and if a bunch of pakistanais came here, maybe that a moderator will add it, but don't count on it, it is impossible to put all the country in here... or is'nt it?

:D

JeffB - the last march, eight steps and less to go...

There are around 192 countries. Click here for more info (http://geography.about.com/library/misc/blnationalcapitals.htm) . Turkish Cyprus isn't included because nobody except Turkey recognises it, it is a doubtful subject. Chechnya isn't there either, but I don't know how much longer the Russians will hold on. And it is also doubtful to call for example Afganistan a country.

In order to prevent confusion and because I think the number is to big I have a radical proposal: instead of dismanteling Russian nuclear warheads, let's use them to nuke some countries of the map. Let's say maximum one country per alfabet letter should remain:

A: Argentina : they already have enough bad luck.

B: Belgium : I like to stay alive.

C: Cuba : nice touristic spot, Fidel is not as bad as they say, and since capitalism is going downhill, you never now we might need a new socio-economic system.

D: Denmark : nothing against them, sorry for Dominican Republic but we can always go on vacation to Cuba.

E : Egypt : I wouldn't like to destroy the piramids.

F : Finland : France is a lovely country if it weren't for the French.

G : Greece : I wouldn't like to destroy ancient temples either.

H : Hungary : for no reason.

I : Italy : I wouldn't like to destroy ancient temples, again. Iran, Iraq and Israel are on the way to (self)destruction anyway. Same goes for India vs. Pakistan.

J : Japan : Nothing against them. Nice people.

K : Korea, South : the North isn't the nicest country around, probably the worst. I hate dogs, maybe they can do something about it.

L : Luxembourg : Otherwise we would have too much fallout on Belgium. I didn't spare France.

M : Mongolia : The most remote place on earth. Really the middle of nowhere. It's nice to have a country to hide in after I have offended so many people from so many countries on this site.

N : Netherlands : we would have too much fallout on Belgium. But that's also the only reason.

O : Oman : only country beginning with an O anyway.

P : Portugal : For no reason. Pakistan and India will destroy each other anyway it seems.

Q : Qatar : only country beginning with a Q anyway.

R : Russia : America is getting really annoying when it is the only superpower.

S : Sweden : They're neutral. So are the Swiss, but they delivered us Sabena. Don't like their banks either. And with Singapore off the map I'm also rid of Xeon. :) :D :)

T : Taiwan : I already destroyed one China. More then enough (people).

U : United States : There are huge advantages but also huge disadvantages. They get the benefit of the doubt.

V : Vanuatu : I just found out today it existed and it's a nice name. I don't like the pope, so there goes the Vatican.

W : None : fill in a country of choice, like a joker. Let's say Belarus, or White Russia literally translated to English from Dutch and probably Russian too. I like dimm_coder.

X : None : fill in a country of choice, like a joker. Let's say Germany. I prefer them over the French.

Y : Yemen : only country beginning with a Y anyway.

Z : Zambia : Zimbabwe has already pressed its self destruct button anyway.

So, what do you think of my radical proposal. It would make geography a lot easier at school. :D Please try to keep the flood of angry replies limited.

Thanks Simon666, that countries listing is great

http://geography.about.com/library/misc/blnationalcapitals.htm

There is countries that seem to pop up from nowhere, but anyway, before putting 192 countries in the poll, we'll wait to have more than 93 votes!!! We are stuck at 93 votes til that morning!!!! :eek:

And I hope your radical "world-domination-first-change-plan" will not harm anyone and will not be considered badly by our two gentlemens that are moderators in here, but I don't understand, why Cuba and not Canada? I mean... huh? :p

Oh and for you "Q" country, maybe Qubec will become a country one day, I HOPE you'll change your listing that day! :D

JeffB - one day that poll will be heard all over those 192 countries in the newpapers...

Thanks for sparing Luxembourg :p

Hum... but if France wouldn't exist, we would have a sea-border with the mediterranian sea. I can already imagine myself lying on the beach in southern Luxembourg ;)

Although... if Belgium wouldn't exist, we would have a much longer shore-line :p

Still 93 votes !!! :(

- Sonu

------------------------
It seems that you are a Cimperialis fan
------------------------
WHO'S NOT?

:p

well...you should know about "Lothar The Great" - I annoied him a lot. And there have been a couple of people who would likely have killed me if they could...

Stopped at 93?!!! Quick, let me spam some private messages!...

Young people are better in english now. Worse in french, but they have to balance...

Je dois admettre que mon francais n'est plus trs bon. Mais depuis que j'ai termin mes tudes, je n'ai eu presque aucun contact avec cette langue. Sur l'internet, on parle l'anglais, le plupart des films sont en anglais etc. Donc ce n'est pas vraiment ma faute. Probablement la mme chose est applicable pour des gens jeunes.

I have to admit that my french is not that good. But since I've finished my studies, I've nearly had no contact any more with this language. On the internet, people speak english, the majority of films is english and so on. So it is not really my fault. Probably the same goes for young people.

... well a lof of countries are making fun of their neighbours.

Est-ce que vous savez pourquoi on n'a pas de feu d'artifice a Euro Disney? Parce-que chaques fois qu'on l'utilise, les francais veulent s'avouer vaincus. :D

Why don't they have fireworks at Euro Disney? Because every time they shoot them off, the French try to surrender. :D

Originally posted by irona20

:D
And... can't you lie? :)

But... but... it's true ;)

Marina Vaillant
As this 'luxembourgeois' thinks? Will it be the Luxembourg Riviera, or better the Lux Riviera! How do we call the inhabitant of Luxembourg in english? please help me here.

I would call myself a "Luxembourger", but then again that might not be true, since I've never seen a reliable source using this designation. What is interesting though is that "Luxembourgish" is only the name of the language and not the adjective. You would say "the Luxembourg people" for example ;)

And... I think as long as you speak french well, french people will be nice to you. It also makes a big difference whether you're in Paris or one of the smaller cities or towns.

And at least our country is called the same (or begins with the same letter at least) in all the other languages!! That should count for a better communication in the world... :)))

Hum, then again, "U.S." is the same everywhere, except in France where you guys like to change everything ;)

Don't worry, we like you french people :p

the funniest thing is that Austria is called in Austria sterreich and there is in no other language a word for it that seems to be a little simmiliar. All are like Austria, Austrich or so.

I think that's very simmilar to Deutschland (Germany), isnt it?

It would be very interesting, why the German speaking countries have such unique words for their countries.

Ha, yes, right... Hum, I'll have to be more careful mith my examples :p

What about NATO which is OTAN in French... I'm not aware of any countries doing translation on this, even in China. I have to say though that Quebec is worse with its "hot dog" = "chien chaud" and other oddities ;)

As far as laughing at foreign people without them knowing about it goes, nothing beats Luxembourgish ;) Well, then again maybe "breton" (what do you call that in English ?) has even fewer speakers... not sure ;)

Originally posted by Ungi
a nother thing i recognized:

EU is European Union in German and sure not US

Yes, the french are confusing us here ;)

the funniest thing is that Austria is called in Austria sterreich and there is in no other language a word for it that seems to be a little similiar
Maybe Luxembourgish doesn't qualify, but we call it "Eistreich".

Actually the worst is translating names of cities... I tried to tell spanish people about Bordeaux and they told me it's Bordeos here. Genf - Genve - Geneva... why ? :confused:

With soon 120 posts and more than 1500 views, this thread will probably establish a new record. And we are now at 99 votes. Just one to go. Which country will do the job?

Originally posted by Elrond

I believe the spanish for US will be EU (like in french):
Estados Unidos
Etats Unis


In Spanish:

Estados Unidos -> EEUU :D

if luxembourg gets a place in the poll, austria should also get one!! i know at least 3 members from the beautiful alps country!! :) :) :) :D :D :D

Originally posted by Ungi
if luxembourg gets a place in the poll, austria should also get one!! i know at least 3 members from the beautiful alps country!! :) :) :) :D :D :D

Ok, let's ditch Japan and Mexico to include Austria and Luxembourg, how does that sound ? ;)

Simon, I think in most Germanic languages Austria will be something like "Osterreich" and Germany along the lines of "Deutschland". Anybody knows Danish, Swedish or Norwegian ? :D

in the US they call both Iraq and Afghanistan toast.

Well I would say they would call them the foreign countries, since apart from the States, they are the only other countries in the world... :rolleyes:

France is in California, since they have beaches and wine, right ?
Germany is in Michigan since they make cars
China is in New York, I've been there
Russia is all over the place, but they hide most of the time, since they are a mafia
England is near Boston
Spain is in Florida, but they are actually gaining ground and you can find them everywhere...
Luxembourg ? That's some kind of occult guild of high-street bankers who launder money for Spain and Russia.
Canada is the northern-most State of the US.

Simon, I think in most Germanic languages Austria will be something like "Osterreich" and Germany along the lines of "Deutschland". Anybody knows Danish, Swedish or Norwegian? As far as I remember from highschool, Dutch, Engish (!)and German are Germanic languages, French, Spanish, Italian, Romanian and so Romanic languages and Danish, Swedish and Norwegian Scandinavian languages. So your claim is incorrect. It may however be that in Scandinavian languages "Deutschland" and "Osterreich" will be similar, but I wouldn't know.

Luxembourg ? That's some kind of occult guild of high-street bankers who launder money for Spain and Russia. You're analysis is pretty funny. We know better, Luxembourg is a cult guild of high-street bankers who keep money from tax-evaders of our country - as well as from many others in Europe. :D Bye the way, I keep asking myself, is Luetzeburgs - I do not know the exact name by heart - an official language or is that French and is it just a dialect? Do you speak it? Is it more Germanic or Romanic?

[ups, this got posted twice :/]

Ha in Norwegian, Germany is called tyskland, which is remotely close to Deutschland

EEUU, oh yes, you double because it's plural.. great! :-)

I knew how "breton" was called for having seen breton cheese somewhere in Sweden... But I forgot.
Breton people call themselves Brezhoneg (or maybe this one is the language i keep on mistaking those two), I tell you that for your cultural knowledge :)

I like the differences in other countries, they make the tourists smile, sometimes get angry ("how come this post office is so long and going so slow?"), but also have nice surprises.
But always a lot to tell when they are back home.
Is there any Swede here?? I have a lot to tell about Sweden! ;-)

We French are not changing all the names, compared to Spain where no english word is welcome! ;-) All is translated. At least it was still a few years ago. We (french) keep some names in english. But there is no reason why an international association should have a name (sigle : only letters) only meaning something in english.

Where it gets funny is computer speaking (I'm not out of the subject here with you). Where ISO is OSI in French, and of course OSI is ISO. I keep mistaking which one is the normalizing association, and which is the layer model :) Depending on which language I speak, it keeps changing, so I always say both. The OSI/ISO model... and nobody complains :)

About towns, I try to call the towns in their original names (the name their inhabitants give them), but I can't always. I would seem snob to talk about London not calling it Londres in french.

I should learn to post shorter messages...

Marina

Originally posted by Ungi
Who talks to the Moderator, should i or do you want to do it??

You do it, I think I'm losing my credibility here :) Hehe, Ungi, yes, 101 votes :)

Bye the way, I keep asking myself, is Luetzeburgs - I do not know the exact name by heart - an official language or is that French and is it just a dialect? Do you speak it? Is it more Germanic or Romanic?

Letzebuergesch, but I'm not sure about the current spelling (we change spelling every five years, and people don't complain as they did in Germany :p)
It is an official language recognized by the UN. Luxembourg has two official languages : French and Luxembourgish (like switzerland has three) Of course I speak it :) It's a language that's very much alive, as opposed to many "small" languages in the EU where people have to lobby to get it into everyday use again. It is definitely germanic, although tainted with many french words. The official name of the language is "West-Mosel Frnkish", which means its a Frankish (the barabrians who used to live here :p) from west of the river Mosel. It used to be spoken in an area about three times as big as the current Luxembourg, but French imperialism has eradicated it from northern France. In Belgium and Germany there are still a few older people who speak an anicent version of Luxembourgish though.

The only languages in Europe that are not Indo-European are Bask and - not 100% sure - Maltese.

I think finnish and some eastern european (is it Hungarian ?) also have a different root. But yes, you are right this might all come from the common indo-european root. Then again, country names are usually much younger than this, so it is strange to have such differences.

I think the reason for Germany having such a huge difference in its translations is that everybody traced it back to something different. germani is the name in latin already, so english does have a perfectly valid reason to use this. allemani is also a latin word as far as I can remember. Where "deutsch" comes from though, I don't know.

Where it gets funny is computer speaking (I'm not out of the subject here with you). Where ISO is OSI in French, and of course OSI is ISO. I keep mistaking which one is the normalizing association, and which is the layer model Depending on which language I speak, it keeps changing, so I always say both. The OSI/ISO model... and nobody complains

A nightmare ! ;)

About towns, I try to call the towns in their original names (the name their inhabitants give them), but I can't always. I would seem snob to talk about London not calling it Londres in french.

I don't know about this one, I always try to use the "localized version" of the city's name. I know people use "Bejing" instead of "Pkin" in french, but I don't tend to use it. Let's keep it all multicultural and confusing :p

Originally posted by Marina Vaillant

France is Frankrike, french male is Fransk whereas french female is Fransyska :)

I guess other nordic language (except Suomi : Finland language) will have close names for Germany.

Marina

Funny, in Luxembourg, Francisca is a girl's name ;) (I guess in many other parts of the world too).

Hey, maybe you can tell us which eastern european language shares a root with Suomi ?

When I forst drove to Sweden, across Germany, I thought Ausfart was a very popular city where a lot of roads were leading to (a bit like Roma!). Then I realized it meant "way out"

Nice one :) In Spain I was wondering why there weren't any rest areas on the highway when there was a sign indicating there here you could change your smell, somebody had to tell me that "cambio de sentido" only meant that you could change direction ;)

Hey, maybe you can tell us which eastern european language shares a root with Suomi ?

i think Suomi is a slawian language. like the balitsh languages, or czech.

Originally posted by Ungi


i think Suomi is a slawian language. like the balitsh languages, or czech.

Ok, I edit myself, since I was wrong :p

In all, about 23 million people speak the languages of the Finno-Ugrian language family. However, many of the languages are tiny: apart from Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian, they are all threatened minority tongues whose territories lie within the Russian Federation.

here is the source (http://virtual.finland.fi/finfo/english/langua.html)

Dutch translation:
- der Vogel : de vogel
- die Schwalbe : de zwaluw
- das Tier : het dier

German would be easy to learn for us if it weren't for the cases. In Dutch you don't have those, you have only de/het instead of der/die/das.

French : mutter --> mre
You should be intelligent enough to know that I intended to write the French and the German and forgot something in between. The three official languages in Belgium or Dutch, French and German, I've been learned all three at school, though my German s*c*s really bad.

This thread will be closed. Instead of sticking to the original topic, you folks are actually discussing boring languages. Such kinds of discussions will hinder advertising revenues and will turn an already-boring forum like this into a ghost town.

If you folks like to participate in formal/informal discission and exchange your views using the buggy Microsoft Exchange Server XP, please join those mailing lists that has such topics.

Now, the thing is : it seems I'm the one and only, sole single Singaporean here who's pretty active at making threads and helping everyone like mad, eh? Remember the 100 posts I made to this guy who dunno how to code a more powerful version Microsoft Word 2002?
Also, last night, I created a full working version(with source code) of Microsoft Project 2002 for this 34 year old man who dunno how to make a push-button work.
Kinda extreme, but I'm a really helpful guy.

Now, can someone else continue this thread with a formal, more meaningful and political discussion of gurls in social life, political life, and such?
Maybe we can start the discussion of what gurls are and how they work, and how to debug them when they crash suddendly.
And probably, we can conclude with a overview of the roles that gurls play in Web Services, GML-stye.(Gurl Markup Language)

Thank you for your interest. :cool: :cool:
(oh God! why am I so cool???) :D

but i thought Dutch is very simmilar to German, isnt it. It is. It is not difficult to make ourself understood by Germans, but speaking it correctly - correct gender (der/die/das), correct case, correct tenses - requires even so a lot of effort.

As far as Marina is concerned: I have the impression that you take it as an insult. I apologize in that case. I should replace 'you should be intelligent enough to understand' with 'if you considered it in more detail'.

By Cimperiali:
well...you should know about "Lothar The Great" - I annoied him a lot. And there

have been a couple of people who would likely have killed me if they could...

I know about Lothar:

http://www.dev-archive.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14501&perpage=10

But, what is the annoyed and kill stuff? Sorry if my post harm you or anything, I don't want to annoy you, just to say people Cimperiali is a respected guru that help me improve my programming skills, that all... ;)

Oh and maybe I should private you... that thread is starting to be confusing!!! :D

I have to say though that Quebec is worse with its "hot dog" = "chien chaud" and

other oddities

Other oddities? Are you talking about Poutine... What? Does hot dog do not exist in USA or anywhere in the world? It's not Qubec copyright... (I think... ?) We don't call Hot Dog "Chien Chaud", but we all, while children, ask "Why it is call hot dog? Is that thing is from a dog ...... " :D

Where ISO is OSI in French, and of course OSI is ISO. I keep mistaking which one is the normalizing association, and which is the layer model Depending on which language I speak, it keeps changing, so I always say both. The OSI/ISO model... and nobody complains

Oh don't remember me of that... I hate these ISO OSI french english stuff... why translate these, why don't keep the original name? !

Post by Xeon:
This thread will be closed. Instead of sticking to the original topic, you folks are actually discussing boring languages. Such kinds of discussions will hinder advertising revenues and will turn an already-boring forum like this into a ghost town.

I tend to agree with Xeon, you can talk about the langages, but the thread has 4 pages in more than yesterday, and is plenty of long borings messages. Well, not so boring but it's pretty hard to follow what you are saying, and I would like more people to post instead of always the same, but anyways.. "And you JeffB, why are you posting?" ... "JeffB: Huh?..., ehhh..., " :D

I really don't want Brad Jones to post a third and definitive message in that thread...

Edit:
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JeffB - now 107 votes, 1400+ views, 14 pages

Originally posted by Marina Vaillant
Why stop a little bit of culture intruding a "nerds" site!!??!!

Marina

Nerd? What nerd? Ain't any nerd around! :p

But for sure it is interesting talks we have around, even if it's may be a little too European... ;)

Originally posted by Elrond

But for sure it is interesting talks we have around, even if it's may be a little too European... ;)

Maybe because of the time ...

The discussion is starting to be limited to only few people. Have you really been watching this thread? Before, nobody even came here, let alone posted here. After, more and more people came here to a discussion.

I think your problem is that it is indeed a bit too European but it is certainly not limited to few people. There are around 400 million people in the EU, keep that in mind. There are only more Indian and Chinese people.

..., and it is a forum, not a WebChat. Can you tell me the definition of a forum and a webchat. I think both are intended for people to discuss things. Please clarify what you mean with a webchat and a forum and in what a forum should be different.

Originally posted by Simon666
Have you really been watching this thread? Before, nobody even came here, let alone posted here. After, more and more people came here to a discussion.

I think your problem is that it is indeed a bit too European but it is certainly not limited to few people. There are around 400 million people in the EU, keep that in mind. There are only more Indian and Chinese people.

Can you tell me the definition of a forum and a webchat. I think both are intended for people to discuss things. Please clarify what you mean with a webchat and a forum and in what a forum should be different.

Ok ok, nevermind, you're right in all points! :D

I've been watching this thread since the start, and I admit it has grown up and attract more people: this is nice indeed! :)

Oh and by the way, happy birthday! :D

Forum and webchat part:

I may badly express myself, but WebChatting means talking on the fly, but as said, it is in General Discussion, I just don't want the thread to become "Idle chatter"

Limited in few people:

I means I want more people to integrate the discussion. When I read that kind of thread where I did not post, I tend to don't know if I can post or not. In that case, I just don't want it become a closed discussion between few members.

I sense a little aggressiveness (pfious how to write that word...) in your post, don't get me wrong, I'm not against you... I'll retire myself if this is what you want

JeffB - pool power growing up!

I sense a little aggressiveness (pfious how to write that word...) in your post. I did not intend it that way. I apologise if I gave that impression. I just though it was completely incorrect that it is limited to few people, since more and more people are answering that thread (which is clearly visible) and since you cannot call Europeans a limited audience. That is the only message I'm willing to bring over. Through the lines you can see however that I am upset about calling it a limited audience. But I did not intend any agression, I would like that to be clear.

I also sent this as private message to Jeff, but maybe it is wise to let other people see that I intend no agression, apart from my plan for world domination ofcourse. :D :p It surprises me that very few people object to this plan. I did get requests though to save Canada and Spain. I think I'll just have to nuke Cuba then. I'm not sure about trading Sweden from Spain, I'm programming partly for a Swedish company, they are very nice people.:)

By the way, thanks, it is my birthday :). But I hate birthdays :mad: and I am thinking of deleting that info from my profile. I'll see, it's only annoying once a year and now is too late anyway.

Originally posted by Simon666
Bye the way, thanks, it is my birthday :). But I hate birthdays :mad: and I am thinking of deleting that info from my profile. I'll see, it's only annoying once a year and now is too late anyway.

Well happy birthday then :) You just got a year wiser and a year closer to retirement, isn't that something to be happy about ? ;)

Well happy birthday then You just got a year wiser and a year closer to retirement, isn't that something to be happy about ? I'm afraid that as time goes by I only get more and more stupid. But according to the Peter Principle (http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?PeterPrinciple), this may be not too bad after all from a carreer perspective. And every time it is my birthday, I feel like I am ready for retirement right now. Why don't you put your manufacturing date in your profile?

Why is it called hot-dog by the way?? A good possible explanation is here (http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mhotdog.html) . My opinion is that in previous times, America wasn't yet as populated as today so the number of rats was lower. This way, the local McDonalds used dogs instead of rats. Modernisation is a good thing for pets.

I also vote for keeping Sweden. As I told you, since France is gone, I have to find a home somewhere.
Sorry Spain, but you'll always be an 'E' for me anyway! :) (I'm not talking about marks).

Marina <- my name could sound spanish too!

Post by Yves M.:
And that "chien chaud" is not true ? Well that guy in Montreal who was selling me a chien chaud might just have been pulling my leg then

LOL :D :D :p

I've already heard about such tourist joke. We never use "chien chaud", we use "hot-dog", be sure of that! How can you have eat such a thing!! a "chien chaud" OH! :eek:

cheers

JeffB 123 votes if I remember... cool :cool:

Thanks for your efforts, Brad.
Btw, 125 till now. Still silently growing...

C.I.

Hi guys
though i am from india i voted for usa. It is here where i started working in Visual C++ so i think whereever we guys are working we should vote for that country. Just because im an indian doesnt mean i have to vote for india though i love it just like any other indian. Am i making sense ?? guys help me out !!

Amazing how many people here are from India though... Well then again it has a bit of a bigger population than Luxembourg ;)